
Carol Givner
2. Have there been any turning points, any pivotal moments or events that
shaped the direction of your work? What were you writing when you were 15? 21?
When you first moved to California?
3. Was the concept of your radio show, "Connections," an idea of your
own? How did the show come about?
4. What pleases you the most about your media work?
5. What have been the inherent "little annoyances" about a talk-show,
either expected or unforeseen?
6. How have you coped with the unpredictability of your guests?
7. What has been the funniest "unscheduled" moment on your show?
8. What prompted you to contribute your chapter to Stephen Blake Mettee's
The Portable Writer's Conference? How did "So, You Want to Be a Columnist?" come
to be written?
9. Why did you want to be a columnist? What intrigued you?
10. What topics did you cover in your L.A. Times column, "Words and
Images?" What was your favorite column at the time you wrote it? Your most
influential? Which do you like to reread most often?
11. How does the media influence your style? How do you move so
comfortably around print journalism, radio broadcasting, writing and publishing?
What advice would you give to writers who want to vary and expand their
audience?
12. Who is the most fascinating person you've ever interviewed? Which
person, writer or otherwise, would you like to ask to be a guest on your show?
Who would be the most surprised by your invitation?
13. If talent is not only a gift, can good writers be taught to invent,
explore and express artistic ideas? If so, how?
14. How would you define good writing?
15. Is inadequate writing merely underdeveloped? Or something more
irreparable?
16. What is the most unforgivable mistake a writer can make?
17. Do you think it is possible to separate the dancer from the dance?
The writer from the dream? Who is your favorite author?
18. What advice would you give to both new and established authors?
19. Any new ventures? What is breaking on the horizon for you? What are
you writing?
20. If I handed you a sharp pencil and a slip of paper with room for
exactly eleven words (coincidentally the letter count for "Connections") what
would you say to your readers and listeners?
However, during those years of domestic engineering, I also created a
life outside the home as a volunteer. I taught myself how to write and edit
newsletters for the PTA, a homeowners association and a political group. After
the family was bedded down for the night, I spent hours writing, and measuring
with a ruler (didn't know about word counts) until all the articles fit into the
space allotted for each newsletter.
When we moved to California from New York, I discovered the LA County
Museum of History. Volunteered as docent and trained for a year learning how to
do historical research. And then I was turned loose in the museum to lecture to
school children about everything from Indians to the creatures of the La Brea
Tar Pits.
I also worked with Friends of the Library and edited their statewide
newsletter, and walked precincts in behalf of political candidates. This
lifestyle still included my responsibilities as wife and momma.
And then I discovered the local newspaper. They published columns about
local events and I knew I had to do that. After nagging my way into an editor's
office, I convinced him to give me a shot at writing a column. Oh, by-the-way,
the pay was 15 cents a column inch. I generally earned between $4 and $5 a week.
And so, the professional writing career began. I was then hired onto the paper
as staff writer and spent five happy years as general assignment and political
reporter.
The newspaper credits helped me move into a broader market. I began to
submit articles and opinion pieces to other newspapers and magazines. And along
with my passion for politics, I developed a deep interest in the publishing
process. I focused more and more on that area. And after hearing people insist
there was very little publishing activity in the west, came up with the idea of
doing a book to prove them wrong. Interested a literary agent in the concept and
my "Writer's Guide to Publishing in the West" was released in 1982. Based on my
author credentials my column about publishing ran in the Herald Examiner. I then
moved on to the Daily News of Los Angeles and from 1982 to 1996 I wrote the
"Words & Images" column for the Los Angeles Times Ventura Calendar section.
1 love the column format. Instant gratification. Get something off one's
chest. Provide information on a regular basis and then get feedback from
readers. If constant deadlines don't scare you, and you can live with editors
occasionally messing around with your precious words, writing a column is really
a joy. And when publisher Stephen Mettee put out the word that he was looking
for chapters for his "Portable Writer's Conference" guide, I jumped at the
chance to do the chapter on writing and marketing a column. I had already
written chapters on agents and marketing manuscripts for other publishers' guide
books.
The passionate need to communicate continued to churn my brain. Putting
words on paper was not enough. So, I began monitoring the local commercial radio
stations in Santa Barbara and talked one of them into letting me do a show
called Literary Lunch. I had been interviewed numerous times on radio and had
lectured extensively about publishing all over the country, I figured hosting a
show would be a breeze. Uh uh! I choked on my first broadcast. Lost my voice and
the board operator had to go to a long commercial break until I pulled myself
together, 1 learned the hard way that talk show hosting is a special skill.
This is one of the "what ifs" I mentioned up front. I wish 1 had jumped
into the talk radio world years ago. However, no sense whining. Here I am
broadcasting every week at KCLU-FM, a wonderful National Public Radio station.
It began when a KCLU host, Jon O'Brien, asked me to guest on his Wednesday night
show in 1995. He kept asking me back and finally we cooked up a show to air on
Sunday morning called "Beyond Words" and convinced KCLU to put us on as cohosts.
Our partnership ended in May 1998.
I host the show re-named "Connections" at 10 a.m. every Sunday. And since
it is live, I am generally flying on nervous energy every week. Will I screw up?
Will the guest be a bomb? Will the guest show up? I've been lucky so far. Most
of the authors, agents, publishers, poets, editors have been articulate and
interesting, I did interview a major screenwriter who made me work hard to drag
information out of him, and I was a nervous wreck about interviewing actor,
Carroll O'Connor because he had a reputation for being prickly. But I discovered
we came from the same Bronx, New York neighborhood and he was absolutely
wonderful.
I've interviewed over 300 people since 1996 and there have been evocative
moments which stand out. One was when Charles Schulz of Peanuts fame insisted
that he was not really a writer or an artist. I actually cried on air. And
reminded him that he has been a positive influence on millions of people all
over the world. I couldn't accept his strange evaluation of his own talent. It
made me sad.
Some of the sticky moments include the phone guest whose line was busy
all night - ergo - no interview; the Australian author who didn't compute the
time difference and at 3 a.m. (his time of course) yawned through the whole
interview; the celebrity who called from her limo and simply wouldn't hang up;
the movie-star author who breezed in 20 minutes after the broadcast began when
we were doing a bookstore remote. "Traffic darling," she explained waving long
red fingernails. And then, there was my embarrassing goof when I thought my
guest had self-published her book. She hadn't and was properly miffed at my
mistake.
Another stress inducing moment occurred when we were scheduled to
broadcast from a Borders bookstore. KCLU engineers had installed very impressive
equipment and William Peter Blatty, author of the "Exorcist," was our guest. The
station had been on the air for hours but within seconds of introducing Blatty
we were blown off the air! We stared at Blatty. His authorship of that book and
scary movie gives him a strange aura. The natural explanation: the ground had
slipped under our broadcast antenna following heavy rains. Well, only the
audience in Borders heard the show that day.
You asked who would be the most surprised to be invited on "Connections."
Sometimes I read an intriguing piece in a newspaper and invite the reporter to
guest on the show. They are often surprised. Now, who would be the ultimate
interview? The coup. Why President Clinton and/or Hillary. We would talk about
reading and writing and literary stuff. I would also like to talk to Jeff
Greenfield, the television political analyst, who recently spent some months in
Carpenteria writing a novel. What would journalist Greenfield say about writing
fiction?
I am convinced that the ability to tell a good story is a special talent.
The craft, putting parameters around the tale, is a learned art. Good writers
know how to organize and edit their own work. Bad or inexperienced writers
generally over-write and too often bore us to death. But it all revolves around
that innate story-telling talent. Many commercially successful authors are often
mediocre writers - but boy, can they tell a whopping good story.
And the writer who had communication skills and the ability to market the
work also has a better chance to achieve success in the publishing maze. You've
heard it ad nauseum. Know the market. Interact with people in the publishing
industry. Make the contacts. Understand the world you want to enter. Many of my
writing assignments and on-air jobs resulted in my studying and targeting
editors and program directors. And hanging out. I support authors by attending
their signings at bookstores. And I am a member of a number of writing and
broadcast organizations.
Remember, I have to read (at least portions of) my radio guests' work and
so when I give myself permission to read books for pure pleasure, they tend to
be brain busters. I prefer history, archaeology, and fiction which focus on
events rather than personal relationships. Some of the novelists I've read
recently are Mark Helprin, Mordecai Richler, George Garrett, Mary Doria Russell,
Susan Sontaq, Ursula Hegi and non-fiction authors Richard Ben Cramer, Ted
Berkman and F. Scott Berg. I often re-read a Dickens or Jane Austen after
watching on. of the British dramas on television.
My present plans are to focus on getting "Connections" syndicated to
other NPR stations. It's a big undertaking.
And dear literary toilers, just as we are admonished to know what our
fictional characters want and decide how they achieve their goals. We should
apply that same advice to our own careers. What do we want and decide how do we
focus on attaining that dream? A wonderful writing teacher told me that I would
have to be ruthless or at least very selfish to achieve major success. She may
be right. I leave that idea blowing in the wind. What say you?